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I've had the truck for a couple of weeks and love it (expecially the 14"screen). I sold a RAM 3500 Cummins dually and my Lexus LS460 and will be daily driving the Tundra until I get my 2GR swapped MR2 project finished.
I will be using the truck to tow an 8,000 - 10,000lb trailer and hooked it to the Tundra for the first time yesterday. The rear of the truck squatted 3-3/8" without the toolbox in the front of the trailer being fully loaded. Time for some air bags in the rear coils.

Has anyone succesfully fitted a universal airbag kit to their '22 Tundra 4x4? If so, can you give me a part# that worked please? I had planned to go with the Timbren rising rate rubber 'springs', but they won't be available for a few months.

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I've had the truck for a couple of weeks and love it (expecially the 14"screen). I sold a RAM 3500 Cummins dually and my Lexus LS460 and will be daily driving the Tundra until I get my 2GR swapped MR2 project finished.
I will be using the truck to tow an 8,000 - 10,000lb trailer and hooked it to the Tundra for the first time yesterday. The rear of the truck squatted 3-3/8" without the toolbox in the front of the trailer being fully loaded. Time for some air bags in the rear coils.

Has anyone succesfully fitted a universal airbag kit to their '22 Tundra 4x4? If so, can you give me a part# that worked please? I had planned to go with the Timbren rising rate rubber 'springs', but they won't be available for a few months.

Thanks in advance,
Martin
Congratulations on your new Tundra @Martinb9 and welcome to the forum! I think Dobinsons will have lift coils for the rear soon but I don't think I've seen an air bag setup yet on a Tundra. Have you tried reaching out to any companies to see if they have anything yet?
 

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Thanks for the welcome and the info. I'm in a bit of a rush, so I'm going to try the Air Lift 60786 Universal Kit. I'll report back as to the ease of install and fitment
Without the weight distribution bars installed:
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Thanks for the welcome and the info. I'm in a bit of a rush, so I'm going to try the Air Lift 60786 Universal Kit. I'll report back as to the ease of install and fitment
Without the weight distribution bars installed:
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Really interested in how much it squat, trailer sway, rough ride and bottoming out it eliminates. Looking forward to your take.
Any photos of the installation would be great if you can provide any. Thanks!
 

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Thanks for the welcome and the info. I'm in a bit of a rush, so I'm going to try the Air Lift 60786 Universal Kit. I'll report back as to the ease of install and fitment
Without the weight distribution bars installed:
View attachment 469
Good luck with the installation! Be sure to let us know how it goes. What do you usually tow with that trailer?
 

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Thanks - I will document the install and how the first trip up through the Coastal Mountains of BC goes. If you ever watch the Highway thru Hell series, my first trip with the trailer will be heading up the Coq. Still in the break-in period now. At about 1,000 miles I plan to do an engine oil and transmission fluid change to flush out any debris, then start to work it a bit.
What do I tow in the trailer you ask?
Well, I'm the lucky owner of a multi-galaxy black hole that attracts any money or negotiable intruments within a 500ft radius. Occaisionally I get to put it in the trailer and go play... it's not as shiny (or straight) now as it was in this photo, but it still pegs the fun-meter, and makes the rest of the world fade away for a few days at a time.
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Really interested in how much it squat, trailer sway, rough ride and bottoming out it eliminates. Looking forward to your take.
Any photos of the installation would be great if you can provide any. Thanks!
I installed the Air Lift 60786 Universal Kit. It's not the perfect solution (it probably needs to be a bit taller), but it does fit. I could only gain back 1" of the over 3" of sag with the air bags at 35 psi (nmax pressure)
So far I've only driven with the weight distribution hitch and the air bags, not the air bags alone.
The result (trailer is approx 8,000lbs with 1,050lbs on the hitch)
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Keep in mind that I'm just a weekend warrior, doing what makes sense to me. There are plenty of generic air bag install videos on YouTube by more skilled / experienced mechanics than me.

Install was pretty easy. Jacked the rear, put jack stands under the frame and chocked the front wheels, disconnected the panhard bar, sway bar and shocks and lowered the rear axle as much as possible without putting strain on the brake hoses. It would be possible to damage your brake lines if you weren't paying attention.
Removed the upper bump stops (just popped them out by grabbing them and pulling down).
I also lowered the spare tire as it is really close to the back bumper, making access difficult, and for where I put the fill-valves, it was important not to drill into the spare tire.

The failure modes I've seen for these kits involved bags splitting, and air lines kinking and failing. I was carefull not to stress the bags themselves by clamping them flat or folding them like a hot dog bun - there was no need. Anywhere the air lines would be in contact with anything including the zip ties, I put clear 3/8" OD / 1/4" ID vinyl tubing over the air lines. Where I went through the frame above the rear coil springs, I put a 2nd layer of clear tubing over the first layer. To slide the clear tubing on, I used a few drops of tire mounting lube poured into the clear vinyl tubing.

I de-burred the hole in the top spacer with a stepped uni-bit.
I lightly folded the airbags by hand and slipped them into the coils with the nipple pointed up. At first I didn't have the protective clear tubing on the air lines, so when I re-did the connection after sliding on the tubing, I clipped off the part of the air line that had already been forced over the nipple on the air bag - I didn't want to use clamps in that location, and wanted the tightest seal possible between the tubing and the nipple.
I routed the air lines along the electrical harnesses, across the back bumper and installed dual schreader valves so that air wouldn't transfer side to side during cornering.
I decided that I wanted the shraeder valves really easy to access, to I used the two bottom holes in the license plate (tag). Because the valves are half in / half out of the plastic support, I made an MDF drilling template, bolted it in place with the top license plate bolts, and starting with a 1/8" diameter drill, stepped up the hole size in three steps.
One thing to note with this location is the spare tire is too close. A 90 degree bulkhead fitting would be ideal here, but I have yet to source one. If anyone knows of a supplier for a shraeder valve bulkhead fitting with a 90 degree barbed connector for 1/4" air hose, please share the info. As an interim measure, I again slid clear vinyl tubing over the air line to help reduce the chance of kinking and failure at the fill valve... it's only a matter of time.

Air bag in place:
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threading the tubing into the hole above the air bag
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Coming out through the top of the frame - double clear vinyl tubing protection
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License plate mounting frame. The screws just go into the plastic (no inserts), so don't over-torque them
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Simple drilling template
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Clear tubing protection and clamps on the tubing where it meets the fill valves
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Dual fill valves:
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Might as well get some practice lowering the spare
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This is what you're aiming for:
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Torque your wheels... according to the PDF manual:
Steel wheel: 154 ft•lbf (209 N•m, 21.3 kgf•m)
Aluminum wheel: 97 ft•lbf (131 N•m, 13.4 kgf•m)

I hope this helps somebody else figure out what they want to do on their truck.
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I installed the Air Lift 60786 Universal Kit. It's not the perfect solution (it probably needs to be a bit taller), but it does fit. I could only gain back 1" of the over 3" of sag with the air bags at 35 psi (nmax pressure)
So far I've only driven with the weight distribution hitch and the air bags, not the air bags alone.
The result (trailer is approx 8,000lbs with 1,050lbs on the hitch)
View attachment 482

Keep in mind that I'm just a weekend warrior, doing what makes sense to me. There are plenty of generic air bag install videos on YouTube by more skilled / experienced mechanics than me.

Install was pretty easy. Jacked the rear, put jack stands under the frame and chocked the front wheels, disconnected the panhard bar, sway bar and shocks and lowered the rear axle as much as possible without putting strain on the brake hoses. It would be possible to damage your brake lines if you weren't paying attention.
Removed the upper bump stops (just popped them out by grabbing them and pulling down).
I also lowered the spare tire as it is really close to the back bumper, making access difficult, and for where I put the fill-valves, it was important not to drill into the spare tire.

The failure modes I've seen for these kits involved bags splitting, and air lines kinking and failing. I was carefull not to stress the bags themselves by clamping them flat or folding them like a hot dog bun - there was no need. Anywhere the air lines would be in contact with anything including the zip ties, I put clear 3/8" OD / 1/4" ID vinyl tubing over the air lines. Where I went through the frame above the rear coil springs, I put a 2nd layer of clear tubing over the first layer. To slide the clear tubing on, I used a few drops of tire mounting lube poured into the clear vinyl tubing.

I de-burred the hole in the top spacer with a stepped uni-bit.
I lightly folded the airbags by hand and slipped them into the coils with the nipple pointed up. At first I didn't have the protective clear tubing on the air lines, so when I re-did the connection after sliding on the tubing, I clipped off the part of the air line that had already been forced over the nipple on the air bag - I didn't want to use clamps in that location, and wanted the tightest seal possible between the tubing and the nipple.
I routed the air lines along the electrical harnesses, across the back bumper and installed dual schreader valves so that air wouldn't transfer side to side during cornering.
I decided that I wanted the shraeder valves really easy to access, to I used the two bottom holes in the license plate (tag). Because the valves are half in / half out of the plastic support, I made an MDF drilling template, bolted it in place with the top license plate bolts, and starting with a 1/8" diameter drill, stepped up the hole size in three steps.
One thing to note with this location is the spare tire is too close. A 90 degree bulkhead fitting would be ideal here, but I have yet to source one. If anyone knows of a supplier for a shraeder valve bulkhead fitting with a 90 degree barbed connector for 1/4" air hose, please share the info. As an interim measure, I again slid clear vinyl tubing over the air line to help reduce the chance of kinking and failure at the fill valve... it's only a matter of time.

Air bag in place:
View attachment 483
threading the tubing into the hole above the air bag
View attachment 484
Coming out through the top of the frame - double clear vinyl tubing protection
View attachment 485

License plate mounting frame. The screws just go into the plastic (no inserts), so don't over-torque them
View attachment 486
Simple drilling template
View attachment 487
Clear tubing protection and clamps on the tubing where it meets the fill valves
View attachment 488
Dual fill valves:
View attachment 489
Might as well get some practice lowering the spare
View attachment 490

This is what you're aiming for:
View attachment 491

Torque your wheels... according to the PDF manual:
Steel wheel: 154 ft•lbf (209 N•m, 21.3 kgf•m)
Aluminum wheel: 97 ft•lbf (131 N•m, 13.4 kgf•m)

I hope this helps somebody else figure out what they want to do on their truck.
Martin
Fantastic information @Martinb9 thanks a lot for sharing! Congrats on installing the air bags. How does the truck feel on the road with them installed?
 

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Fantastic information @Martinb9 thanks a lot for sharing! Congrats on installing the air bags. How does the truck feel on the road with them installed?
With the trailer connected (with weight distribution hitch and the air bags at max pressure), the ride is a little choppier, more like a 3/4 ton. With the trailer unhitched and the air bags still at max pressure, the rear definitely was less planted over rough surfaces - not as bad as my 1 ton dually with an empty box, but not the SUV like ride that the stock Tundra provides. I'm leaving them inflated for a few days to check for leaks.

Without the trailer connected, the pressure in the bags dropped from 35psi to 29psi, which left me wondering, does the 35 psi limit relate to unloaded, or loaded pressure? If anyone knows the answer, input would be much appreciated. If not, I'll give Air Lift a call.
 

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@Martinb9 are you going to be making any other upgrades to your Tundra in the near future?
I have wheels and tires on order. Black Rhino Rapid 18"x9" +18 offset (I like the smooth outer rim vs faux bead locks from other brands) with LT275 70 18 Falken Wildpeak AT3W Load Range E tires. I'm lazy when it comes to washing a vehicle, so the rim has to be a simple design that is easy to keep clean.
I'd like to find some running boards, and if it's not too pricey, I'll get the moustache and the silver bumper trim parts (the ones just inside the body colour end caps) painted Blueprint front and back.
Other than that, I've already spent too much money and I'm happy with the truck.
 

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I have wheels and tires on order. Black Rhino Rapid 18"x9" +18 offset (I like the smooth outer rim vs faux bead locks from other brands) with LT275 70 18 Falken Wildpeak AT3W Load Range E tires. I'm lazy when it comes to washing a vehicle, so the rim has to be a simple design that is easy to keep clean.
I'd like to find some running boards, and if it's not too pricey, I'll get the moustache and the silver bumper trim parts (the ones just inside the body colour end caps) painted Blueprint front and back.
Other than that, I've already spent too much money and I'm happy with the truck.
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Fantastic information @Martinb9 thanks a lot for sharing! Congrats on installing the air bags. How does the truck feel on the road with them installed?
I towed the trailer with just the airbags this week (no weight distribution hitch), and there were no issues. With 35psi in the airbags and approx 1,000lbs on the ball, there was no sway, bottoming out or wierd ride characteristics. The weight distribution hitch does make the towing experience with an 8,000lb trailer a little more relaxed - dips, bumps and surface changes have less effect on the truck. On my drive home there's one highway bridge with a particularly bad asphalt to concrete transition on a curve and the pitching of the truck's nose was more pronounced with out the WDH.
Could you tow 8,000# with just the airbags - for sure. Will I take the time to put on the torsion bars? Every time.

A side note - I picked up a little Makita 18V inflator that I store under the back seat. It's perfect for inflating the airbags - set the desired pressure, pull the trigger and it stops inflating at the desired pressure. It's one of those stupid little conveniences, but I love that thing and the tool only (no batteries or charger) was $100.
Here's the truck sitting nice and level with the trailer connected and loaded, with the airbags inflated, but no WDH:
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